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ollk
Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 8
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject: Newbie requires Cinder Toffe help... |
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Hi, Here's a problem I am sure must have a 'scientific solution', but I haven't come up with an answer myself and it is driving me crazy!
I have recently been attempting to make cinder toffee (you know, that delicious golden honeycomb you get in chocolate bars) and I am getting mostly mediocre results and the odd decent result. Basically I use the following recipe..
200g Caster Sugar
100g Golden Syrup
1 TBS Bicarbonate of soda
1/2 TS vinegar
Method
Mix sugar and syrup and heat gently in pan until everything melts. Heat up to 138°C (bubbling).
Now remove from the heat and stir in Bicarb and vinegar. I have found it is very important NOT to over stir at this point just get everything mixed together then immediately poor into a grease proof pan with a layer of butter - I find the sugar continues to rise after pouring which is generally a good sign.
Problem.
In the cooling phase the whole thing is deflating. I have tried rapid cooling, covering with cling film and other things but can't get the desired effect.
It is worth mentioning that I did get a good finish once but the inside was slightly burnt!!! So maybe I am not getting things hot enough? Maybe boiling the sugar solution longer will help?
So could anyone work out how I can somehow strengthen this mixture and stop it collapsing, which I assume happens once the bicarb has stopped reacting?
BTW is the vinegar really necessary?
Olly. |
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alison - uk
Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 17 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Hi, your recipe seems to be missing some components. Scroll down this link for a good recipe. Have to say, for the best results a sugar thermometer is the way to go. Once you have one you'll be able to make all sorts of toffee/candies properly.
http://www.gastronomydomine.com/2007/07/cinder-toffee.html |
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ollk
Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 8
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply Alison. I think through your link, and here (link below), I have worked out that I haven't been heating the sugar up enough. The original recipes I used stated 138°C but your link suggests the Hard-Crack Stage, which seems to be between 148° C – 154°C!
I think I will stick to my recipe but try the higher temperature and see what happens.
BTW I am using an Infra-Red thermometer, which I suspect is good enough and being non contact doesn't require cleaning afterwards! |
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alison - uk
Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 17 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:13 am Post subject: |
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OK Olly,
Here's yet more links, although it seems every recipe is different, I've never made it without water before.
So you have an infra-red thermometer - how fancy shmancy is that You're cooking with the big boys! I have a rather nice 30yr old brass one!
You're right - hard crack is 154*C, & I think that's right, as it's meant to be a 'very' hard crispy candy.
Good luck with your next attempt, be sure to report back.
Alison
http://icecreamireland.com/2007/11/14/honeycomb-toffee/ |
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ollk
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: |
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alison - uk wrote: |
So you have an infra-red thermometer - how fancy shmancy is that You're cooking with the big boys! I have a rather nice 30yr old brass one!
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hehe I use to fix ovens & stuff so I am not that fancy a cook, believe me! They are pretty cool if you know their limitations though! |
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danicamoore

Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 58 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Yes actually vinegar would be necessary. I actually love this recipe. Good luck with your toffee.. |
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:29 am Post subject: |
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danicamoore wrote: | Yes actually vinegar would be necessary. I actually love this recipe. Good luck with your toffee.. |
And yet I've seen many recipes without vinegar. There's even a video of a chef at a restaurant making ginger cheesecake w honeycomb toffee, and he doesn't even use a thermometer.... (just granulated sugar and water plus the baking soda) I am finding mine puffs up so much that it won't settle down into breakable chunks. I was wondering if eliminating the vinegar would stop that. |
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