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Larry Renger Guest
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: Sharpening Steel technique - Why stroke toward yourself? |
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How come all the chefs and instructions have you stroke the blade over a sharpening steel with the edge toward yourself? You could achieve the same angles with more safety stroking away. Is there something to the shape of the grooves, or what? |
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Michael Chu
Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 1654 Location: Austin, TX (USA)
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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I think chefs are taught to run blades on a sharpening steel towards their own bodies as a safety measure to other people working in a cramped commercial kitchen. |
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buzzard767
Joined: 30 Jan 2008 Posts: 21
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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I have a good idea. Take that grooved steel which is nothing more than an edge ruining file and throw it in the trash can. You should take a look under magnification at the damage these buggers do. If you're using soft steel knives like Germans or French, get a glass smooth steel to realign the edges when they roll. If you're using hard steel knives like most Japanese get either a ceramic steel or a borosilicate steel to touch up the edges. |
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Dilbert
Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: central PA
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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buzzard767 wrote: | I have a good idea. Take that grooved steel which is nothing more than an edge ruining file and throw it in the trash can. You should take a look under magnification at the damage these buggers do. |
please describe the damage they do so I know what to look for.
I have a 10x, 15x, and 25x loupe - so I'll go look if you can tell me what to look for and I suppose you should add "why" what I'm looking for is "bad" |
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buzzard767
Joined: 30 Jan 2008 Posts: 21
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Dilbert wrote: | buzzard767 wrote: | I have a good idea. Take that grooved steel which is nothing more than an edge ruining file and throw it in the trash can. You should take a look under magnification at the damage these buggers do. |
please describe the damage they do so I know what to look for.
I have a 10x, 15x, and 25x loupe - so I'll go look if you can tell me what to look for and I suppose you should add "why" what I'm looking for is "bad" |
Jagged.
Why? Smooth polish cuts better. It's an old argument but "toothy" is an excuse for not knowing how to sharpen. I do. Here's just some of my stuff - not a grooved steel in sight.
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buzzard767
Joined: 30 Jan 2008 Posts: 21
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:35 am Post subject: |
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Here's something I upped to another forum a couple days ago. It's all about high end edge polishing. True sharp has nothing to do with ripping up an edge with a grooved steel.
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Scrubbed bull pranced into my house this morning.
Diamond spray is magical. I will NEVER use it on knives other than my own (too sharp).
I gave the leather one light coat, rubbed it in, and let dry. This was followed by a second coat somewhat heavier than the first. Both coats were sucked up rapidly by the leather. After drying, a third, heavy coat was applied, heavy enough so that I had standing liquid. I rubbed it in and waited for it to dry. Patience lost, the Takeda Gyuto was stropped, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Yesterday after chromium oxide, it push cut (edit: computer paper) 15/16" from the pinch. Now, post diamond, full push cutting was easily obtained at 1 3/4" and partial (about 1/4" deep) at 2 1/8". This stuff is infrickn'credible. End quote: |
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DrBiggles
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 356 Location: Richmond, CA
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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buzzard767 wrote: |
Jagged.
Why? Smooth polish cuts better. It's an old argument but "toothy" is an excuse for not knowing how to sharpen. I do. Here's just some of my stuff - not a grooved steel in sight. |
Smooth is the way, just like using a strop to polish the edge of a straight razor. Juicy.
Biggles |
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