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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Equipment & Gear: Baker's Edge Reply with quote


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A couple months ago, Andrea from the University of Michigan wrote me an e-mail to let me know of a product that she likes to use when baking brownies and breads. This product, the Baker's Edge, is a pan with additional interior walls to ensure there are no center pieces to a baked good - every piece has at least two edges. After getting my own pan, I set out to see how it stacked up against a traditional pan while baking brownies.

When I received my Baker's Edge, I was surprised by its solid construction. The pan is cast aluminum (about 1/8-in. or 3 mm thick) and weighs 2-1/2 pounds (1.15 kg). The interior finish has a non-stick coating while the exterior is unpolished. The rough exterior makes the pan easy to grip even with oven mitts or pot holders. On top of that, the handle positioning is excellent - they two hand holds are placed about halfway down the side of the pan, so you can easily flip the pan over without rapping your knuckles. The interior walls are placed about 2-1/2 inches (6.3 cm) apart. Due to the slight cant of the side walls, this means the minimum width of the channels are about 2 inches wide. An inflexible red spatula (exactly the right size for the channels) was provided with the Baker's Edge.

When baking, the batter that touches the edges (and the bottom) of the pan cook faster. We often take advantage of this so we'll have browned edges on our baked goods (like on a pound cake). This is because a great deal more heat can enter the food through conduction (and metal conducts heat much better than air). The idea behind the Baker's Edge is to provide more metal surface area to conduct heat. (More everyday examples of this principle in action are the Bundt cake pan and the angel food cake pan. Both utilize a center "tower" of metal to help conduct heat into parts of the cake that normally would be cooked much slower than the exterior.) Does it work? I did a series of tests to find out.

I started with the Baker's Edge and a typical non-stick baking pan (9-in. x 13-in.) and made two batches of Dark Chocolate Brownies. One batch went into the Baker's Edge and the other into the 9x13.

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After 35 minutes, the brownies in the 9x13 were done, but the Baker's Edge needed a few more minutes to reach the same doneness. 5 extra minutes was enough to finish those brownies.
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The brownies from the 9x13 pan were thinner than the ones made in the Baker's Edge (because the pan has a slightly larger volume) and that may have contributed to its faster cooking time. In addition, the light aluminum sheet used on the 9x13 pan probably allowed it to heat up faster than the Baker's Edge. Both brownies did not pop out of the pans when inverted, so I had to go in with spatulas to dig them out. (Usually, I prepare brownies in a 9x13 by first lining it with a sheet of parchment paper, so I can easily lift them out without ruining the shiny crust that forms on the surface of the brownies and without having to dig out a piece from the pan first.) Once a piece had been removed from each pan, it was easy to cut square brownies and scoop them out. The non-stick coating on the Baker's Edge didn't release the soft brownies perfectly but did do a better job than the other non-stick pan. (Both washed out easily and cleanly with soapy water - which is a great reason for getting non-stick. The Baker's Secret shouldn't be run through the dishwasher, but clean up was so easy, it wasn't an issue.)

Each of the brownies from the Baker's Edge did indeed have chewy edges - two of them (and sometimes three) in fact. It was almost like every piece was a corner piece from the standard pan. Therein laid a problem I hadn't considered. I had tasters that liked brownies with edges and tasters that liked brownies that didn't have any chewy edges but were soft and moist throughout. With the regular pan, I had corner pieces, edge pieces, and center pieces (although there are always more than four people who want corner pieces and not enough edge pieces). For the edge lovers, the brownies from the Baker's Edge were perfect - chewy edges surrounding a moist chocolate brownie. For the center lovers, the brownies were good, but they much preferred the texture of the brownies from the 9x13 pan.

On one of the later batches, I baked the brownies with the Baker's Edge but took them out of the oven earlier. This resulted in a consistent texture throughout - the edges hadn't yet gotten chewy and the whole brownie was how the center lovers liked it. Unfortunately, I didn't really have any edge pieces.

The pan works extremely well if you like chewy edges to your brownies (and other baked goods). If you don't like chewy edges, a bit of recipe time adjustment results in even baking. The only real downside to this pan that I could see was getting that first piece out. Even after several trials, I just couldn't do it without completely destroying that first piece.

For this test, I didn't try them, but the Baker's Edge also recommends breads, rolls, potatoes, casseroles, and more. The instructions came with recipes for brownies, banana bread, lasagna, cookie bars, and a breakfast casserole to get you going.

The Baker's Edge is available through Amazon.com. You can find additional information about the Baker's Edge by visiting http://www.bakersedge.com/.



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:23 am    Post subject: Just say no to edges Reply with quote

Ah, but I like center pieces. Edges are too burnt and crispy for my delicate palate.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:53 am    Post subject: awesome! Reply with quote

thanks for this very helpful report! i love edge pieces Big smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:07 am    Post subject: American cuisine highlight Reply with quote

Slightly undercooked brownies are one of the few highlights of american cuisine. Never spoil them using this "edges" device.
If you like "edges" just fill up two baking tins in stead of one with the same quantiity of dough.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too bad a recipe scaled for a 9x13 pan doesn't halve into 8x8s. I have a very rich fudge brownie recipe for 8x8 that doesn't double into 9x13 well (too much mush in the middle and burnt on the edges). I just use two 8x8s. But this contraption might work well for doubling a heavy, sugar-rich recipe.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: edge vs center Reply with quote

I too prefer the center pieces.

For those who prefer eating on the edge, another option to this admittedly nice pan is to use a cupcake pan. Each piece will be largely edges. Cooking time may have to be adjusted, however.

Anyone feel like trying this method?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject: Dreams Dashed Reply with quote

Michael, you've inadvertently crushed my dreams of getting rich off of bakeware. I have been sitting on this exact idea for probably 5 years, being one who loves the corners. The guy who brought these to market probably has thought about it for that long too, but I'm both excited to give the pan a try and saddened by the fact that I'll have to finish my ME degree and not be a millionaire college drop out. Oh well, I guess I'll have to keep thinking.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please let me know when there is a pan available that let's me cook brownies without any edges. I always go for the center pieces without the edges myself.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
Please let me know when there is a pan available that let's me cook brownies without any edges. I always go for the center pieces without the edges myself.


I've never used them for brownies, but I would try a silicone bake pan. Cakes and breads won't crust and brown in them, so I believe this would be the closest thing to an "edgeless" pan for brownies. Just make sure to bring it into and out of the oven using a pizza paddle because those pans have a tendency to flex and either crack or spill what's in them.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: All crust brownies & first piece suggestion Reply with quote

I weep with anticipation at the thought of brownie crust in every serving. It also means I get most of them since I live with center people.

Use parchment paper to easily get out the first piece. Cut a piece about 4 x 8 and tuck it into the pan with the ends sticking up. Add batter & bake. Then make sure your first piece is the lined section, and lift out the chocolately goodness intact.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For edgeless brownies every time, use a cookie pan.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:14 am    Post subject: edge or center brownies Reply with quote

As long as someone else is baking the brownies, I'll eat from the center or the edge. I'm an equal opportunity eater when someone else is doing the cooking. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want edges on every piece, try a mini muffin pan, or a bouchon pan. No cutting required Teasing

Note - use nonstick everything (or a silicon one), or you'll be digging them out with toothpicks. We stick a toothpick in at an edge, and the turn the brownie around in the well before taking them out so we don't end up with half a brownie stuck in there (we don't use nonstick pans, though we probably should).
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: edgeless brownie pan Reply with quote

Spray with cooking oil or wipe down lightly with oil and the brownies fall out when you flip the pan. I absolutely love this pan. I first started using to make my GF (gluten-free) brownie mixes. This is one of the few "gadgets" that does what it says well.

And no I don't work for the company. I just think you didn't master this awesome device. Works perfectly for me.



Cheers!

Lover of the Edges (mix of chewy, more carmalized, browned and complex deliciousness)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:45 am    Post subject: Baking Pan - Universal Flaw? Reply with quote

About baking pans in general, I notice that all metal ones have folded seams at the corners. This makes that very hard to clean, and I thinks it's a bit unsanitary. No amount of soaking can fix this problem. Can someone help? Also, the pyrex 13 x 9 is slightly larger, and with the rounded corners, I just cant accept it as a substitute for certain things, like brownies or cheesecake bars. Please help, because this seems to be the cause of rusting in those pans.
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