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elektronisk



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm an engineer with an Intellectual Property law firm (and enthusiastic chef).

Michael's attempt to patent his layout is well within the framework for patent protection. The arguments against patenting data layouts are unfounded. Can you imagine if you invented dBase or Excel when everyone else was using a word processor? Of course not. Presenting data in an efficacious manner should be patentable don't you think?

The way or format in which data is displayed or presented is as valuable as most other inventions. If I give you a few random lines of code, if won't mean much to you. But if I give it to you in a format you understand it will. Now take that one more place, what if I give you something that you don't understand but I make it understandable? Don't you think that my interpretation / translation should be patentable if I invented the method for presenting the data myself?

Look at how many patents there are involving the Braille system? Isn't this just another way of displaying, presenting, or conveying info / data?

All I'm saying is that according to current USPTO guidelines, Michael's invention is patentable if there is no prior art.
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eltonyo



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow... the above post was pretty "far-out" from my perspective.

the man above says he is from an "Intellectual Property law firm (and enthusiastic chef)."

holy crap.... excuse my use of "intellect" for a engineer/lawer who deals in "intellectual property!"... whatever that means! ?!?!?!?

who brags about being an "intellectual" property law firm engineer/ "lawyer"... with a "penchant" for cooking...????

when all i am talking about is simple "venn" diagrams... from something
called "math".

hello???? (simple "math" people... simple math)

can a mathematical "venn diagram", be described as "art"?

nobody has bothered to answer this simple question?

(are we willing to even go there?!?!?!)

let me get this straight... the use of a venn diagram for a recipe is "PATENABLE" ?!?!?!

If so... i have no less then 1,000,000,000,000 ideas that can categorized in a simple venn diagram.

Gee thanks!

I guess I can quite my "day job" tomorrow, and start publishing old ideas, using even older methods of unions and dissection... and make money.

Who knew?

sigh.

sigh.

somebody put a nice hard "brickwall" in front of my head.... so I can pound my frontal lobes against it.... until all of this sillyness and stupidness of patenting a "mathmatical" language (invented myriads of years ago) has gone away.

Besides... (see prior posts on this thread)... the two column format ("No Patent Required"), as most agree, is much more effecient in communicating a recipe format anyhow... and anyway. Smile

p.s. ... with cheese even. Wink

p.s.2 "do i need a "patent" lawyer, who likes to cook, who knows "something" about math, to respond?


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EngineeringProfessor



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: A flowchart is a flowchart is a flowchart... Reply with quote

elektronisk wrote:
I'm an engineer with an Intellectual Property law firm (and enthusiastic chef).

Michael's attempt to patent his layout is well within the framework for patent protection.
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All I'm saying is that according to current USPTO guidelines, Michael's invention is patentable if there is no prior art.


The tabular recipe format is novel from a cooking standpoint, but is really just a horizontal flowchart from what I can tell. Have there been any recent reconstructions of flowcharts being awarded patents? I imagine it could go that way, but whether or not one "skilled in the art" would see it would be, IMO, the key counter-argument. Would the art be cooking (I doubt a chef would ever see it) or algorithms (anyone who has done software design would see the flowchart format)?
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